tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37286253.post4732500660767682558..comments2024-03-09T11:08:34.910+02:00Comments on other things amanzi: surgical egoBongihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12918640034313468627noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37286253.post-57164074888687026802008-06-12T21:28:00.000+02:002008-06-12T21:28:00.000+02:00Surgeons? I thought the ego thing had to do with ...Surgeons? I thought the ego thing had to do with "M.D."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37286253.post-72109855492399649422008-06-03T11:05:00.000+02:002008-06-03T11:05:00.000+02:00Great stuff.I just found your blog and love it.Loo...Great stuff.<BR/>I just found your blog and love it.<BR/>Look forward to reading more.<BR/>my website<BR/>www.papercraft-ideas.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37286253.post-62377300306839304232008-06-03T07:52:00.000+02:002008-06-03T07:52:00.000+02:00Your comment to the surgeon is virtually nothing c...Your comment to the surgeon is virtually nothing compared to some of the brown-nosing I've seen some med students do... <BR/><BR/>... at least you retained your dignity ...Vitum Medicinushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09994320714669547787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37286253.post-1537241202784366052008-05-27T14:46:00.000+02:002008-05-27T14:46:00.000+02:00It sounds like surgeons are quite similar to Pavlo...It sounds like surgeons are quite similar to Pavlov's dogs.<BR/><BR/>Sit Boo Boo. Sit. Good dog.<BR/>jkThe Happy Hospitalisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14392872203166584371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37286253.post-7063821607434705302008-05-25T17:33:00.000+02:002008-05-25T17:33:00.000+02:00Bongi: I'd love to hear about how surgeons protec...Bongi: I'd love to hear about how surgeons protect their hands. I was shaking my surgeon's hand yesterday (usually he just hugs me, so I hadn't noticed before), and I couldn't believe how soft and smooth they were--like a baby's bottom, and he's about 57.<BR/> I have to protect my voice, but not my hands.Devorrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14542045173559671539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37286253.post-79945595640311931462008-05-25T16:15:00.000+02:002008-05-25T16:15:00.000+02:00I liked the 'why psych issues on a surgical blog' ...I liked the 'why psych issues on a surgical blog' dig Bongi.Vijayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06710965375559259238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37286253.post-15797479855460606782008-05-24T22:16:00.000+02:002008-05-24T22:16:00.000+02:00Bongi, Fortunately my surgeon was completely k...Bongi, <BR/> Fortunately my surgeon was completely kidding--he actually is very fond of me, and he and his wife are family friends, as our redheaded sons played together a decade ago. <BR/> I was with my friend this morning, and I cheered up all the spinal patients showing them my tummy and back scars and assuring them they would be just fine.Devorrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14542045173559671539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37286253.post-65037490826183485872008-05-24T07:48:00.000+02:002008-05-24T07:48:00.000+02:00sid, i also don't think arrogance need be so commo...sid, i also don't think arrogance need be so common among us. however i do think confidence is often misconstrued as arrogance by non surgeons. if an anesthetist were to ask me he i was better than him at putting in a cvp i would say yes. he might misinterpret that as arrogance where i see it as simple fact.<BR/><BR/>richard, i think the introvert in you gets worked out to some extent. there is just too much forced human contact. but more importantly, what are we doing talking about psych issues on a surgical blog.:-)<BR/><BR/>dev, what an arsehole your (orthopedic) surgeon sounds. i hope you struck back with some comment about him not falling to well on the eye either.Bongihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12918640034313468627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37286253.post-12749015191971393392008-05-23T23:15:00.000+02:002008-05-23T23:15:00.000+02:00Interesting comment Sid. Which now begs the quest...Interesting comment Sid. Which now begs the question - how does an introvert survive as a surgeon?Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11711363043806317937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37286253.post-60518835766831248312008-05-23T20:35:00.000+02:002008-05-23T20:35:00.000+02:00P.S: in preparing a related post, I came across t...P.S: in preparing a related post, I came across this quote from one of my most influential mentors during training:<BR/><BR/><BR/>“And unfortunately the nasty thing about surgeons is, you have to have an ego to<BR/>survive. ... when I talk to medical students, ... I say, as I introduce them to surgery,<BR/>‘You may not like surgeons, as a whole we are not the most likable group of<BR/>individuals. Now the thing that you may or may not perceive is that the surgeon has<BR/>an ego. And he has to have that ego to survive.’ Medicine is essentially a diagnostic<BR/>specialty. The medical guy gets his kicks out of diagnoses. Therapy is: ‘God did it. I<BR/>am going to help God make you better, if I can.’ All right. But you rarely cure<BR/>anybody in medicine. In surgery you intervene directly into the patient's disease. You<BR/>play God. And if you make the right decision and the patient does well you get a high<BR/>and it's like nothing else. .... And on the other hand, if things go badly, you have a<BR/>low. When your things go badly, as they will do, if you are involved in doing surgical<BR/>procedures, how do you maintain your effectiveness if you think somebody else could<BR/>have done it better? You are either amoral or conversely you believe in yourself. And<BR/>you have got to have that belief to survive....And that creates a different type of<BR/>person psychologically than the internist. The internist is a nice guy. He is often an<BR/>introvert. The surgeon is the extrovert.”<BR/>F. W. Blaisdell, M.DSid Schwabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14182853083503404098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37286253.post-250587060507202432008-05-23T20:06:00.000+02:002008-05-23T20:06:00.000+02:00Good job of turning a quirk into an advantage. I d...Good job of turning a quirk into an advantage. I do agree that to be a surgeon one must have certain common characteristics; but I don't know why arrogance is so prevalent. It need not be. On the other hand, I wasn't (I don't think) arrogant, and I burned out fairly young. Maybe I needed more of it. You could be in trouble!Sid Schwabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14182853083503404098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37286253.post-20022381341201936022008-05-23T19:24:00.000+02:002008-05-23T19:24:00.000+02:00I'm in the hospital today, sitting with a friend w...I'm in the hospital today, sitting with a friend who is having a cervical fusion. We have a great surgeon(same one),albeit with a huge ego, and he did take one look at me just now and say, "Great! Now my day is totally ruined." (-:Devorrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14542045173559671539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37286253.post-65816322475995943612008-05-22T15:56:00.000+02:002008-05-22T15:56:00.000+02:00I watched the whole 1st and 2nd series of Doc Mart...I watched the whole 1st and 2nd series of Doc Martin (actor Martin Clunes) last weekend (don't ask!) and I couldn't help think of you always telling about the surgeons and their ego's. Funny stuff I tell you. If you ever have time on your hands (which I doubt), watch it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com